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I know I’m late, but this does not work. Ganondorf would never wake up in the age of calamity timeline. The reason he was able to break the bind on his heart is because the calamity destroyed the castle. The castle was helping the seal and making sure no one disturbed the it. as we can see in the final moments of the imprisoning war Raruu was below Ganondorf and his back was only slightly arched. But in the opening of tears Ganondorf is bent almost 90° with Raruus hand above him, if it wasn’t for the calamity, destroying the castle 100 years before he could have kept him there forever and maybe even won

Zelda Minecraft isn't all bad but detail in other areas are suffering because of it.

It saddens me that Nintendo is done with "traditional" zeldas but im looking forward to whats to come in the future. echoes of wisdom looks great!

I love how we can't just play a traditional zelda game where zelda is the protagonist. No, it has to be Minecraft creative mode where zelda can't even fight enemies 🤨

I bet you half of these people just are twilight princess/majoras mask fans

We'll have to see how Echoes of Wisdom goes but I'm coming to the gradual conclusion that new Zelda games might just not be for me anymore. There's literally no hope of the voices of old fans being heard because the new fans greatly outnumber them. And new fans don't want to hear what the old fans have to say so the natural thing for a traditional Zelda fan like me to do is to stop caring and pay more attention to a series like Metroid that stays closer to the franchise's roots. BotW/TotK fans can praise the new direction of Zelda for its complete openness all they want but I'm so over it. They can say the new games have amazing design for allowing you to skip over large chunks of content with a hoverbike but personally I think that's extremely lame.

I think it's fine with Echoes, as long as story and dungeons are up to snuff. It helps it's like... A spin off(?), or at least doing something new with Zelda as the protag and they didn't just hand her a sword and called it a day. I still don't wanna touch breath or tears with a 20 ft pole though

Let's go back to the old way. I didn't become a zelda fan for open wolrd sandbox problemsolving. I want puzzles with neatly designed specific solutions. And it is exactly as they say: "Necessity is the mother of invention" More freedom isn't gonna make us be creative when solving puzzles. It is when we are limited, that we have to come up with a creative solution (Even if the solution is set by the developers)

It's funny how Aonuma was hated for the linearity in Spirit Tracks and Skyward Sword, and now gets hate for the openness of the newer games. It's like these rabid people just don't want him period. It's really pathetic

Whats the music at the end of the video?

I disagree Zelda didn’t do much- she had to chance to save sonia- change the past but no- she didn’t- things played out the same way- so even if link was there or not- only thing she did was restore the sword- her only good sacrifice. Her presence in the past did not make any good impact. So yes it’d had been better if link was there- also as new experience for us the gamers to enjoy hyrule of the past.

Let's be clear, it's not an evolution, it's a reinvention. While the new games are fine, they are completely different from their predecessors, and I'm sad to say they do not appeal to me.

I think it is the same general kingdom we see in Link to the Past and Link Between Worlds, but it looks much MUCH more expansive, with a Gerudo town, Death Mountain and quite possibly more!

i just wanna point out that zelda 1 also had restrictions so it was t fully open

I feel like they've stopped making puzzles, and are now making obstacles. I prefer the old way.

I personally don't think the reuse of the world is an issue. For one, it can potentially have narrative implications. That being, its placement in the timeline. Most likely the Downfall Timeline. For two, it isn't actually a blatant copy of the world due to Death Mountain being in the completely wrong location as well as there being a Castle Town. From what we can see in the trailer, Death Mountain is North West from the Castle. But in ALTTP & ALBW it was always to the North East. For three, the locations we aware of, are definitely going to have a mix up. In the trailer, the Gerudo, Deku Merchants, & Deku Tree are present, unlike in ALTTP & ALBW. As well as there being what seems to look like a conflict between the Sea Zora and River Zora. Which could also serve narrative purposes. There could also potentially be Gorons as well, but we just don't know yet. TLDR: All of this to say, I think the world being similar is the least of our worries. It's more about HOW we interact with the world than the world itself. What we should worry about though is how long that Echo list is going to be. Goddamn.

As a fan of Link Between Worlds and even Link to the Past. I don't mind them using the overworld because unlike the previous two games that were based in this version of Hyrule this will be changed accordingly due to Zelda not being much of a fighter to begin with. I feel this game will try to heavily emphasize puzzles over combat, it looks like we will be quelling an arguement between the two zora races which should be fun considering it's their first game together. The deku scrubs are back after so long. I'm sure Nintendo will try to make this hyrule more interesting, they put gameplay over story most of the time to begin with. (Even if it hurts the game entirely. Looking at you TotK).

Top down Zelda games are my favorites. I’m very excited for Echoes of Wisdom.

I've been a Zelda fan since '98 and I absolutely love the new mechanics. However I do wish the level design was more curated, quality over quantity kind of thing. Hopefully Echoes of Wisdom is a step in that direction.

Idk, since this is the direction their gonna be going with for the foreseeable future it seems, they should start adding “adventure mode” & “creative mode” to please both Zelda fans & Minecraft fans 🙃

I think echos of wisdom is going to take place....or at least very easily could take place....in the child timeline after fournswoeds adventures. Maybe the ganon we see link fight is the dame ganon who was sealed in the four sword? Thwy very easily could spin that.

70th like bro. Pin me

Building and ultrahand is only one half of the coin in the creativity in TOTK. People overlook fuse when it contributes just as much to puzzles, combat and exploration. I personally engaged with Fuse than I do with ultrahand because of how many different weapons you can make, buffs you can create for environmental protection or combat, puzzle solutions as an alternative to ultrahand.

I just want - From modern Zelda: - Open ended free roam - Ability to approach dungeons in any order From classic Zelda: - Items - Unbreakable weapons - Engaging narrative - Fleshed-out NPCs - Rewarding side quests - Restrictions on direction to keep the narrative stable - An adventurous incarnation of Princess Zelda; who can fend for herself with and without Link; her magic at full force; AND DROP THE FAKE ACCENT! - Hidden skills - No blood moon - No random spawning enemies - NO SHRINE TRAILS!!! From the ground-up: - No Ganon(dorf) - Take to the land, sea, and sky; horse, boat, bird, however your method of travel is up to the player

I have been a fan of this series for my entire life. I grew up playing Zelda one on the NES. I love the new format and to me it represents what the series always wanted to be. Moving forward what I want is more gauntlet labyrinths. That is to say mazes that are full of enemies. The puzzle box dungeon never really did it for me. Also tell the story in order please.

I wish I could say that was the worst criticism I’ve ever heard of totk in the middle of the video, but in fact it’s in the top half. This is of course because it’s the lowest bar ever created by humanity.

"Returned to its roots of freedom" Drinking the Anouma PR cool-aid I see.

Not me. Call me a boomer

Creativity is sometimes broken down into two species: generative creativity in which things are created as a result of a process regardless of their value, and adaptive creativity in which things are created as adaptive responses to a system and situation. Ultrahand overloads generative creativity, whereas the puzzles don't really stand up to the power of the tool: I found adaptive creativity underutilized.

Ahhh one day we’ll get another great Zelda game, but apparently not in my lifetime 😂 more “different so creative!” slop

if anything, the EOW world is going to be identical to link's awakening, not link to the past.

I love the new creativity and how the game has grown. I also hope the story will hold up. Btw loved the video 💛💛

I don't mind the new openness, but i wish the games had a more in depth story. A Link to the Past had a good story and was open ended, while also having solid dungeons. I just wish these new games had 5-8 great dungeons and less shrines.

I freakin don't understand all the hate towards EoW. People really hate the graphics and gameplay and want the first official Zelda game starring Princess Zelda herself to be action adventure hyper realistic graphics like aloy from ps? People are freakin weird!

Let’s do an Octopath Traveler storytelling. Play as Link, Zelda and other fan favorites and give each one their own unique story. Then at the end, give them an overarching story

Hope EOW has a better story than TOTK 😭

This series is dead to me. I liked it for the story and epic set pieces, not to play Minecraft

It's taking a bit to come to terms with all the newness in Zelda but I'm excited to see what the future holds!

I think they reused the base map from Lttp and ALBT but expand from that

I don’t like this trend of reusing maps but I love the open air creative gameplay and I like the direction of the series Echoes of wisdom seems to reuse a map but there seems to be many new locations as well that wasn’t in alttp…hopefully it feels more fresh than recycled that was my main issue with totk

Zelda 1 link killed Ganon without the master sword.

Tis difficult to say if it's downfall or child timeline, but it can't be adult for one simple reason: Ganondorf is gone forever in the Adult Timeline. With Daphnes Nohansen's wish upon the Triforce, Hyrule was sealed forever. But what's often glossed over is that Ganondorf isn't able to reincarnate in Adult: he's not actually dead, just sealed in stone by the Master Sword, which is further sealed by the Ocean, protected by the Triforce Wish. So definitively not Adult. It's totally possible that it's just the Child Timeline in which the Four Sword was broken or forgotten or something, or that it's far, far after A Link Between Worlds but before Zelda 1.

Zelda dealt with time splits so perhaps they would have created a time where the Zonai and the Hyruleans are thriving in peace if Link defeated Ganon. Ganon would have been defeated, Sonia would have survived, and Ganon would have not gotten Sonia's tear. Maybe a new evil would have been reincarnated like Demise said would happen.

I get that the Zelda team really doesn't care about the timeline that much, but trying to place this game in the Adult Timeline would utterly destroy any shred of credibility the timeline has left. Like I'm sorry, but you can't look at the context of EVERYTHING in this game and ever think the game could be set in New Hyrule. This is all about the sword, which can simply be a brand new sword unrelated to any prior sword and it simply loosely resembles a past as sword. The biggest tell of where this game is set is Ganon's appearance. Period. But also the fact that its literally the same Hyrule as LTTP but expanded beyond the borders of LTTP's Hyrule. The timeline placement is an afterthought, but they usually try and think a bit about what the story says and where the game is set. The only reason why FSA was placed after Twilight Princess is because the Gerudo treat Ganondorf like a new person. That's it. FSA internally however treats itself like a direct, almost-immediate sequel to Four Swords. Four Swords was originally supposed to be set before OOT but in the game's marketing it was treated as being adjacent to LTTP in some way. While the games do reference past games and there is a loose timeline, a lot of placements are haphazardly thrown together despite going against the lore the games themselves present. There is no place for this game in any time period that isn't somewhere near LTTP.

Are those dot and slashes Morse code?

There is no timeline anymore. Nintenderp gave up on it ages ago.

the sword, bow, and cape seem more so to be Zonai/Twili inspired

I'm personally banking on somewhere in the neighborhood of Link's Awakening and the Oracle duology, most likely after the Oracles. The Oracles, Four Swords Adventures, and now Echoes of Wisdom are the only Zelda titles which feature Deku Scrubs, River Zora, Lake Zora, AND Gerudo. The Oracles are also the only previous entries in the series to feature a Deku Tree-esque character in 2D and in the Downfall Timeline. It's still quite early, so I'll wait to see further details that are revealed over the next few months leading up to the release, as the ReDeads are already a factor I can't quite account for.

I saw a video that had Cadence of Hyrule in the timeline in between A Link Between Worlds/ Triforce Heroes and the OG LOZ. Based on the info from that video my bet is this game takes place just before or after Cadence of Hyrule.